Abstract
Karlheinz Stierle, Professor Emeritus at the University of Konstanz and member of the COSS of the Collège de France, began his talk entitled "Valse mélancolique : Charles d'Orléans qui revient" that knowing how to read an aged text is an invention of Romanticism, and that for Baudelaire the aged is the other side of the modern, before analyzing du Bellay's position vis-à-vis Charles d'Orléans and his contemporaries, showing that Charles d'Orléans and Petrarch both have the first Roman de la Roseas their architext , and above all before analyzing the place of melancholy in the poetry of Charles d'Orléans.